France-Turkey row part of Israeli plot

Some experts in Middle East affairs believe that the term 'genocide' is not an accurate description and the passing of the Bill was provoked by the Israeli lobby to weaken Turkey's role in the region.

Press TV talks with foreign affairs analyst, Yavoz Selim Kurt from Instanbul about France's anti-Turkey move and its possible effects on the future of relations between the two countries. Following is an approximate transcription of the interview.

Press TV: How would this vote impact France's relationship with Turkey? Please point to specifically examples if you can.

Selim Kurt: First of all, today; 22nd of December, is an unfortunate date in the history of Europe and also France. It is unfortunate for the parliament of France; also for the people of France. Maybe they thought they would give some harm to the Turkish government or Turkish people, but in the end they will be the losers.

Indeed, all of these issues depended on slanders, which took part a hundred years ago. Yes, many Armenian people; citizens of the Ottoman Empire suffered much and many were killed. We were also unhappy for them and upset for them, but this was not genocide. This cannot be named genocide, but they wanted this.

Anyone now will think that France is doing this, Sarkozy and some parliamentarians as Bauer or something. Indeed, I want to say something. This is about more than Turkish and France relations. Behind this plot; behind these dirty slanders, believe me, there is the Zionist lobby.

Just remember that two months or almost two months ago, the state secretary of Israel -Lieberman. After the forces of Turkey; pressures of Turkey in the international arena, he said, “We will support the complaints about Turkey in the international arena”. And they did the same, indeed people will think that this is made by the Armenian lobby or French parliamentarians, which is very funny, because ten percent of the lower cabinet were there.
Just ten percent of the house voted for this. It is a very tragic comedy.

Press TV: So, as I understand, you are saying that Israel has had an influence on this based - on what you said - the low turnout in parliament for this vote to have been passed?

Selim Kurt: Yes, indeed. The lower house accepted this with ten percent of the votes. But now it will go to the Senate - I hope they will not make it as a law, but in the end, Turkish and France relations from now on will not be the same... As Israel and Turkish relations will not be the same after The Mavi Marmara massacre in international waters.

Press TV: Is this going to jeopardize the cooperation that Turkey had? And France of course we know Turkey is a NATO ally and we know some of the regional developments - our guest from Ankara mentioned Syria - Is this going to jeopardize how Turkey is acting, in that regard?

Selim Kurt: Yes, indeed I think the same because they are trying to weaken the hands of Turkey in the international arena especially Sarkozy and chancellor Merkel - they're named as 'Merkozy'. In their ruling time they are behaving as an alliance of Judaic-Christian civilization.

Ms. Merkel is always talking about Judaic-Christian civilization and they are very arrogant about this. Now, in the international arena they want to put Turkey in a difficult situation and tie the hands of Turkey in case of a probable attack on Syria. They did the same in the Libyan case; now they want to do the same.

Press TV: Why would they - because they are the ones that would lose then? Obviously, Turkey has more of a relationship, at least had more of a relationship with Syria and knows the region, I would think, much better than the France would - Why would France then do this?

Selim Kurt: Yes, France is not doing this by itself. Indeed France and Turkey had the best relations in the past. During the reign of Suleiman the magnificent, France was almost a mandated state for Turkey. Turkey had France so much against the other crusaders. However, in this time, France is trying to steal a role in Africa; in the Islamic world and some other countries, but they cannot manage this. At the end, the target is - believe me- even the target of this bill in French parliament is Iran.

Behind Syrian issue, there is Iran; they are targeting this. They are always doing the same. They are slandering the same to Iran about the nuclear issue and they are slandering and they believe themselves and they are trying to convince their people - to sway public opinion-.

Press TV: OK. When you mention that, if you look at it in another way, they would lose any chance that they would have in terms of Iran, because Turkey obviously has a relationship with Iran, so it would have to use Turkey to their advantage. This doesn't help it, does it?

Selim Kurt: Yes, Turkey and Iran have strong and very good relations and they cannot manage to do anything to Iran through Turkey - they will not have this - or Syria. They are trying to weaken the hands of Turkey before a probable attack on Syria, but they cannot manage this.

But we are forgetting one thing... Very soon there will be elections in France and this is also another plot of Sarkozy to again be in the power. They are trying to take the support of the Armenian Diaspora and the lobby; but now hear the French parliamentarians- I am sorry for them- the history will judge them. Also, the Armenian Diaspora are the instruments of the Zionist lobby in the United States and in Europe. They are trying to weaken the hands of Turkey.

Press TV: There is also another argument here that this should be made an example for Turkey to learn from. I do not know if you agree or not- but if you look at it - Europe using Turkey for their own benefits in a sense.

I mean, zero problems with its neighbors was one of the platforms that Prime Minister Erdogan preached when he became Prime Minister. You can take Turkeys role concerning Syria, which we talked about. Erdogan on one point referred to Assad as his personal friend, so, is this a lesson to be learned by Turkey in that regards?

Selim Kurt: They may have some intentions to use Turkey and Turkish governments as their tools.But indeed they cannot do this because any Turkish government will not let them to be used as a tool by westerners.

Yes, they may have these plots. In this case the Turkish government will have a strong stance as they did before. Not only am I talking about the Justice and Development Party; I am also talking about previous governments. Turkish governments will also try to defend the rights of Turkey and not only Turkey.... Believe me, there is something here - If they blame Turkey as a genocide maker, this means that not only the Turks, but also the Muslims are genocide makers. Indeed, these are lies.

Tomorrow they will make another slander, for instance, when they want to force Iran, they will say, Iran is making genocide to Baluchi's or Sunni's. Later on in Turkey they will say Turkey is making genocide to the Kurds and to the Alewites.

They did this to the Sudan- you know- Omar El-Bashir - They wanted to jail him, but they could not and so they divided Sudan in two parts. They are just using this misinformation because these Westerners - Judaic-Christian block--they do not want a leader country in the Islamic world.